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jer029 Posted: 01.12.2015, 08:29

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MSP Hub Awards now automatically updated each month.

Congrats to Jim M. and Terry G.

Jim M. for (most hours for the past two months) and most sorties in Nov.

Terry G. Most active new pilot for the past two months.

:clap:


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These awards only reflect MSP Hub regular schedule flights.

John





edited by: jer029, Dec 01, 2015 - 08:31 AM

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Anonymous Posted: 01.12.2015, 09:40
Unregistered User Congratulations guys!

Where do we find the awards for EGLL, KMIA and Special OPS? :-?



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Westcoast Posted: 02.12.2015, 23:46

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I started the MSP Hub awards several years ago to recogize our pilots who sustain the operations of our Minneapolis Hub. I used to determine the winner of these three awards every month by printing out the flight records and adding up the results. I suppose I could have written a spreadsheet macro to do this, but I was too lazy to bother. Anyhow, it got to be something of a chore, so I let it slip. Now John has automated the process and saved me the work of having to put this together myself every month. Thank you John.

Since I am now also the "Acting" MIA Hub Manager, I'd be plaeased to see John do the same thing for Miami. With respect to the EGLL Hub, that will be up to our Heathrow Hub Manager, and Special Operations Manager, and CEO, Yoland Grosjean.

Mike

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jer029 Posted: 03.12.2015, 07:16

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I'll add the Miami Hub awards later today. I've been in discussion with Yoland regarding EGLL and Special Ops award options.

John

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Anonymous Posted: 03.12.2015, 09:51
Unregistered User Excellent, ask an you will receive! Thanks guys, appreciate the fine support!
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Yoland Posted: 03.12.2015, 10:00

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My opinion.... let's put it right away: why would'nt we put a universal award system taking into account all SPA flights from any hub or operation's section? And if we do that, what should be the main criterion to deliver awards, ? Flight time, difficulty, number of flights, etc.
If we are thinking of an automatic system it can only be based on mathematic measurable performance. That means that for instance, if we choose to reward the flight duration, the choice of a slow aircraft will be more rewarding on a given distance. If we choose to reward the flight numbers, selcting 20-30 minutes legs (special ops) and using a fast aircraft would be definitely more rewarding, etc.
Nevertheless, concerning EGLL hub (London Heathrow) I am not opposed to the provision of an automatic reward system. I just wish to remind that including myslefy we are only 3 active pilots on this hub's roster. Anyway, my "best performer" Larry Chew who has already accumulated over 4700 flight hours, will certainly be delighted to break new records!

On the other hand, I do not wish to have the special & bush operations sections to be included in an automatic award system. Those of you who have been a long time with St Paul Airlines certainly remember that some years ago I have introcuded a specific personalized Award System available on certain difficult challenges such as high Himalayan flights, historic flights, Round the World, etc. The permanent management and updating of such a system takes time and efforts. Therefore, after a severe accidents and health problems (which are also now resolved) I had to discontinue this service.
Currently I am about to put online part of the old reward charts and update it in some new missions/adventures. It will still take me some times because, fortunately, I have a full life beyond St Paul Airlines... :angel:


Yoland Grosjean - SPA 348
CEO St Paul Airlines VA
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Anonymous Posted: 03.12.2015, 10:14
Unregistered User Well with that being said, is there any reason why we can't extend the hub awards to include all the sections, like cargo, charter and bush? Or a universal system that just takes into account hours, distance and maybe passenger and cargo load. Restricted to those who use John's SPAACARS of course.
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jer029 Posted: 03.12.2015, 10:58

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I'm somewhat unsure how to approach this issue at this point.

Personally, it doesn't really matter to me. Unless I'm mistaken, the 'awards' system or however you wish to define recognition of pilot activity here at SPA seems to have grown out of the individual efforts of the various managers of the various divisions. The system of recognition has varied to the taste of those managers.

I'm ambivalent regarding awards, but my programming background and increased familiarity with the internal workings of SPA, encourages me to find ways to automate routine tasks so that managers can concentrate on other things that lend themselves less to automation - including just enjoying flying now and again.

As webmaster I see a number of active pilots (or frequent fliers if you will). That is because I see the flight posting emails come through. With the addition of the 'flight arrivals' area, we can see regular pilot ID's show up if we check that area regularly.

While I'm not interested in a highly competitive environment here at SPA, I've found Mike's page to be a nice compromise in that it summarizes nicely those most active pilots during the month.

On the Special Ops end of things I enjoy the many colorful award images that Yoland has come up with and that show up in some of the pilot signatures.

Note: I don't make any negative assumptions regarding hours flown (or colorful images in pilot signatures) and their relation to whether pilots have a life outside of SPA. I assume we all do :-) .

My thoughts regarding the Cargo/Passenger additions to SPAACARS was with the eventual idea of adding an economics module to this that would allow pilots to track their gains and losses based on fuel, distance, and cargo/passenger carried - as with FSPassenger, but only on line here at SPA. This would be just an additional are of interest that pilots might choose to explore - not a mandatory participation.

Lastly, I like the idea - if I understand it correctly, that the hub Mgrs. have had a certain autonomy on their hub offerings. Therefore I will do nothing intentional to tread on that autonomy.

John







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Anonymous Posted: 03.12.2015, 11:09
Unregistered User John, to make things more automated, you could add one more item to acars, a category drop down box with the following qualifiers:
C = cargo
P = passenger
B = Bush
etc. for each category tracked.
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jer029 Posted: 03.12.2015, 11:23

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Thanks Steve, but "Bush" is subdivision of Yoland's Special Ops already tracked based on flight number - as are other flight types.

John

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Anonymous Posted: 03.12.2015, 11:30
Unregistered User Just thinking ahead in case Yoland wants to join in on he automation and include all su-categories.
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jer029 Posted: 03.12.2015, 11:45

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My thoughts regarding the Econ module - that would utilize the latest SPAACARS additions of Cargo and Passenger would be independent of the various divisions and would apply to all flights - unless this was a problem for other managers.

Any pilot using SPAACARS wishing to track their econ data would do so by opting in for that in some way yet to be determined - likely by a settings choice in SPAACARS to upload the Econ data just like the landing rate is currently set up.

The actual Pilot Econ Data would be on a separate page - like I had set up for the FSPassenger page demo a while ago. Only with more of the econ data and financials displayed of course (something that FSPassenger won't do in an online grouping of pilots (aka companies or subcontractors of a virtual airline).

So basically, pilots opting in could see their 'company data' on this page, yet their flights will be normally recorded according to the requirements of the various hub Mgrs of those flights - whether Bush or other Special Ops, MSP, MIA. These would record as they currently do and the 'company data' page would just show the additional information recorded with those flights along with the financial calculations resulting in profit or loss based on the flight - fuel, cargo/pass, distance etc.


John



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Anonymous Posted: 03.12.2015, 12:23
Unregistered User I'm with you. I'm guessing that if it doesn't require work from them, it's ok.



edited by: BBQSteve, Dec 03, 2015 - 12:25 PM
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