XP-12 and SPACARS
1 month 1 week ago - 1 month 3 days ago #17844
by SmittyBRS
LOW & SLOW is the WAY to GO
XP-12 and SPACARS was created by SmittyBRS
I'm currently unable to send ACARS generated PIREPS . Infact I'm not able to get SPACARS to connect to XP-12. I am certain it's a XPUIPC problem once again and suspect it's being caused by either a recent upgrade of XP-12 and/or XPUIPC compatibility. I've tried numerous versions of XPUIPC but none seem to work.
I can either use manually generated PIREPS until I can figure this out and/or be placed on a LOA until I can find a work-around. XP-12 is doing hugh upgrades all through the Summer.The upgrades are sometimes only weeks apart and are delivered either by public beta or full version changes. XPUIPC , at least to my knowledge isn't.. I love flying in the SPA world but this constant compatibility stuff is a PIA and I hope I can figure a way to make XP and XPUIPC play nice together.
*******UPDATE******* Found a XPUIPC and a configuration that seeems to be working . Yes, I'm still using a PIREP sheet to keep track of the flt info when it doesn't
I can either use manually generated PIREPS until I can figure this out and/or be placed on a LOA until I can find a work-around. XP-12 is doing hugh upgrades all through the Summer.The upgrades are sometimes only weeks apart and are delivered either by public beta or full version changes. XPUIPC , at least to my knowledge isn't.. I love flying in the SPA world but this constant compatibility stuff is a PIA and I hope I can figure a way to make XP and XPUIPC play nice together.
*******UPDATE******* Found a XPUIPC and a configuration that seeems to be working . Yes, I'm still using a PIREP sheet to keep track of the flt info when it doesn't
LOW & SLOW is the WAY to GO
Last edit: 1 month 3 days ago by SmittyBRS.
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2 weeks 5 days ago #17845
by jer029
Replied by jer029 on topic XP-12 and SPACARS
Smitty,
Sorry that you were having compatibility issues with SPAACARS. Unfortunately, it would be up to the developers of XUPIPC to resolve any compatibility issues by matching XUPIPC with FSUIPC functionality. SPAACARS relies on memory locations set by FSUIPC. SPAACARS was actually never developed for the Xplane simulator, but XUPIPC's development allowed XPlane users to use 3rd party programs, like SPAACARS, enjoyed by MS Flight Simulator users. When XPlane updates deviate from these memory assignments, it's up to XUPIPC developers to make the necessary adjustments so that SPAACARS can read and write to the same memory locations supported by FSUIPC. You would need to consult with the XUPIPC developer's website/forum for solutions when problems occur.
Yes - our manual pirep entry is always an option, but yes, it can be a pain to do all of that manually. I'm glad you've found a work-around for the time being.
Happy flying,
John
Sorry that you were having compatibility issues with SPAACARS. Unfortunately, it would be up to the developers of XUPIPC to resolve any compatibility issues by matching XUPIPC with FSUIPC functionality. SPAACARS relies on memory locations set by FSUIPC. SPAACARS was actually never developed for the Xplane simulator, but XUPIPC's development allowed XPlane users to use 3rd party programs, like SPAACARS, enjoyed by MS Flight Simulator users. When XPlane updates deviate from these memory assignments, it's up to XUPIPC developers to make the necessary adjustments so that SPAACARS can read and write to the same memory locations supported by FSUIPC. You would need to consult with the XUPIPC developer's website/forum for solutions when problems occur.
Yes - our manual pirep entry is always an option, but yes, it can be a pain to do all of that manually. I'm glad you've found a work-around for the time being.
Happy flying,
John
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2 weeks 1 day ago #17846
by SmittyBRS
LOW & SLOW is the WAY to GO
Replied by SmittyBRS on topic XP-12 and SPACARS
Looks like I'm skating on thin ice with XPUIPC...as far as I can tell the original developer stopped working with X-Plane two or so years ago. There are at two or three developers trying to come up with "new" versions but demand for FSUIPC/ XPUIPC is no longer there. SimConnect is now being used by many of the newer ACARS programs and XPUIPC is no longer required. Fortunately SPACARS still works in a limited manner and I will use it until it no longer reads the "triggers" it needs to support our PIREPS. When, or if, that happens I'll simply pull out Plan "C" and go from there
Keep the shiney side up,
Smitty
Keep the shiney side up,
Smitty
LOW & SLOW is the WAY to GO
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5 days 1 hour ago #17847
by jer029
Replied by jer029 on topic XP-12 and SPACARS
Smitty,
Simconnect was always the interface to the simulator. FSUIPC is built on top of Simconnect. Thus, SPAACARS talks to FSUIPC which talks to Simconnect which talks to the simulator. I opted for FSUIPC as the interface for SPAACARS because it was less complex (albeit less flexible) than working directly with Simconnect. I was in a hurry to get something up and running so I could fly my planes and not spend lots of time learning the intricacies of Simconnect. FSUIPC SDK was enough to handle for a programmer of limited abilities such as myself .
The additional benefit, and it's a significant one, is that changes made to the simulator result in changes to simconnect. Some of those changes would negatively impact the functioning of the 3rd party programs interfacing with simconnect. If SPAACARS interfaced directly with Simconnect, I would have to find out what changes occurred and alter SPAACARS code to make it functional again. By using FSUIPC to interface with Simconnect, the developers of FSUIPC make the necessary adjustments to FSUIPC to ensure that the functionality of FSUIPC remains the same regardless of the changes of Simconnect.
Considering the many changes in the many simulators from FSX, P3D and FS2020, and now FS2024, and not just the new simulators themselves, but the many version updates that have occurred for all of them, the developers of FSUIPC have done an incredible job maintaining compatibility of the different versions of FSUIPC to meet the needs of 3rd party programs, like our SPAACARS. As a result, SPAACARS works for all of the above listed simulators and I have not had to make any adjustments to SPAACARS to maintain its functionality.
That's it in a nutshell...or more likely painful detail .
Simconnect was always the interface to the simulator. FSUIPC is built on top of Simconnect. Thus, SPAACARS talks to FSUIPC which talks to Simconnect which talks to the simulator. I opted for FSUIPC as the interface for SPAACARS because it was less complex (albeit less flexible) than working directly with Simconnect. I was in a hurry to get something up and running so I could fly my planes and not spend lots of time learning the intricacies of Simconnect. FSUIPC SDK was enough to handle for a programmer of limited abilities such as myself .
The additional benefit, and it's a significant one, is that changes made to the simulator result in changes to simconnect. Some of those changes would negatively impact the functioning of the 3rd party programs interfacing with simconnect. If SPAACARS interfaced directly with Simconnect, I would have to find out what changes occurred and alter SPAACARS code to make it functional again. By using FSUIPC to interface with Simconnect, the developers of FSUIPC make the necessary adjustments to FSUIPC to ensure that the functionality of FSUIPC remains the same regardless of the changes of Simconnect.
Considering the many changes in the many simulators from FSX, P3D and FS2020, and now FS2024, and not just the new simulators themselves, but the many version updates that have occurred for all of them, the developers of FSUIPC have done an incredible job maintaining compatibility of the different versions of FSUIPC to meet the needs of 3rd party programs, like our SPAACARS. As a result, SPAACARS works for all of the above listed simulators and I have not had to make any adjustments to SPAACARS to maintain its functionality.
That's it in a nutshell...or more likely painful detail .
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1 day 13 hours ago - 1 day 13 hours ago #17848
by chili
Replied by chili on topic XP-12 and SPACARS
Good morning Smitty, I fly X-plane 12 latest ver. and its a bit tricky, but it has been working for me, I did a test flight a couple of night ago to see if I could reproduce your issue, but I was able to log a short flight on the Maule X-plane AC.
I have attached a print screen of my logbook entry here so you can see the entry, and also my XPUIPC version that I'm using.
Hopefully this will help. Also you probably know this but you have to add +1 on your total X-Plane 12 PL weight for it to report correctly. i.e. Total PL: 5000LBS. + 1 = 5001 lbs.
Good Luck.
Chili
I have attached a print screen of my logbook entry here so you can see the entry, and also my XPUIPC version that I'm using.
Hopefully this will help. Also you probably know this but you have to add +1 on your total X-Plane 12 PL weight for it to report correctly. i.e. Total PL: 5000LBS. + 1 = 5001 lbs.
Good Luck.
Chili
Last edit: 1 day 13 hours ago by chili.
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